On Corey, Andrew, and the Whistle blowers ~ NEAT !
A Secret Space Program? Yes.
Since 2009, I have written and spoken about a probable breakaway civilization. At the time, my thoughts centered
on the knowledge that within the classified world there were certainly
technological developments that have been kept secret, sometimes for a
long time.
Famously,
the stealth fighter was fully operational and secret for six years
before it was officially announced, while stealth technology itself had
been in the works for more than a decade before that, without a peep to
the rest of us. I recall my conversation with a former scientist at NSA
from the mid-1960s who told me of NSA computer clockspeeds exceeding 600
mHz, a speed not reached by the consumer market for 35 years. Today,
there are rumors that NSA or some other intelligence agency has achieved
quantum computing---no one outside that world knows for sure.
Beyond that, rumors and allegations never cease about radical tech coming from the ‘black world.’ I have long credited the ARV story
emanating from Brad Sorensen via Mark McCandlish. If true, it means
that clandestine reverse-engineered flying saucer craft have been
manufactured secretly and have been operational since at least the
1980s. Along these lines we have the statements coming during the 1980s
and 1990s to respected aviation and aerospace journalist James Goodall.
One of Goodall’s sources from within Groom Lake (Area 51) told him, “we
have things in the Nevada desert that would make George Lucas envious,”
and “we have things out there better than Star Trek, Star Wars, or
anything you see in the movies.” And so on.
It’s
not that we should take such claims as gospel. But there is a history, a
pattern. Moreover, the sources of many of such claims come from
individuals whose backgrounds have been confirmed, even if their stories
have not. When it comes to UFOs and all things related, it’s a fact
that we are dealing with things that are classified and secret. There is
no getting around that fact, something most full-time debunkers seem
conveniently to forget time and again. Unfortunately, those of us who
research and investigate the secret world of the UFO cover-up are
handicapped not merely by the intrinsic difficulty of the subject, which
is substantial, but by the secrecy and obfuscation that perennially
accompany it.
Still,
over the years I have concluded that not only is there a probable
“breakaway civilization,” utilizing classified technological
breakthroughs, most likely derived in part from alien technology, but
that this includes a secret space program. The two go together. That is,
if you conclude, as I do, that ...
1) UFOs are real
2) We have recovered some of this technology via Roswell and elsewhere
3) We have secretly been studying these breakthroughs over the many years
... then, it’s reasonable to assume that:
1)
The classified world has made key breakthroughs over the years, some of
which have been monetized, and others which are probably too important
even for commercial profit and are being used covertly. Things such as
radical propulsion technologies, for starters. There would undoubtedly
be other breakthroughs, but who knows what.
2)
Such breakthroughs would enable these people to do things utterly off
limits to the rest of us, including, crazy as it might seem to many
people, to go “off-world.”
3)
There would be little to no incentive for those in-the-know to let the
rest of us know what’s going on. It’s too big, too explosive a secret.
It will only voluntarily be let out when it’s no longer important, which
is usually the case with big secrets. All too often, we learn about
important things after they become irrelevant.
There is more I can say here about all this, but in fact I’ve said it repeatedly here, here, and here, and many other places. The evidence for this hypothesis is very strong.
The New Whistleblowers: Andy, Corey, and the Rest
For
many years, there have been a number of other people, often described
as “whistleblowers,” who have claimed to have participated in such
secret space programs. Now, on the face of it, you could say that,
assuming there is such a thing as a secret space program, it’s entirely
conceivable that someone from the program would eventually speak out.
Some
of the most prominent of these people include Andrew Basiago, Randy
Kramer, and Corey Goode. These three individuals have each claimed to
have gone to Mars for extended periods of time. That’s explosive enough,
of course, but they have also stated that they have engaged in time
travel. I met Andy back in 2012 at a conference in Santa Clara,
California. I found him to be very personable and intelligent. Of
course, that doesn’t mean I believe his story. I don’t believe that he
went through a “jumproom” to Mars. I don’t believe that he did these
things with a young Barack Obama in the 1980s. And I don’t believe that,
as a child, he time travelled back to Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address,
despite the fact that he claimed he was in a photograph depicting it.
I
realize there are strange things beyond the circumscribed fence of our
officially sanctioned reality. But I am not obligated to believe every
story that crosses my path, especially those that are obviously
self-aggrandising, and particularly those that don’t provide evidence.
So
over the years I have mostly ignored Andy’s claims and stories.
Although I have personally considered them unfortunate, I never had a
desire or felt a need to do much about them.
I
developed the same attitude regarding Corey Goode, who lately has
become even more prominent than Andy. Like everyone else interested in
ufology, I watched his claims sweep across the field starting in 2014.
Corey claimed to have gone to Mars on a “twenty and back” program
starting in his late teens, and then, at the conclusion of his program,
was sent back to Earth. But not at his age in his late 30s, and not to
an Earth twenty years later. Instead, he was “age regressed” and “time
regressed” back to his teenage body, back to the same year he left. Mom
never even knew he left the house.
Clearly,
I found this story problematic and was amazed at the willingness of so
many people to take him at his word. His story is perfectly designed to
counter the obvious objections people might have to it: no paperwork, no
twenty-year disappearance, no family member who can vouch for him, and
so on.
My
main issue when it comes to Corey Goode (or Andy or Randy Kramer for
that matter) isn’t that I “disbelieve” them, per se. Yes, I find their
stories to be unlikely. But the real problem has been that none of these
people have provided the evidence that an independent investigator
needs to make a determination one way or the other.
There
is a concept in science and philosophy called falsifiability. If
something is falsifiable, it doesn’t mean it’s false. It means you have
the ability to test it, to investigate it, to determine whether it is
true or false. It could tell you that my suitcase weighs thirty-five
pounds. That’s falsifiable because you can take my suitcase and put it
on a scale. Now, I could tell you that five years ago I checked a
thirty-five pound suitcase at the airport for one of my flights. That is
probably not falsifiable--unless perhaps you find the airline records.
In
the instance of my suitcase, you might not doubt my claim, even if you
can’t prove or disprove it. After all, it’s perfectly mundane and
common.
But
when it comes to significant claims being made--really big claims that
are not only radical on their own merits but which transform the field
(and bring fame and money to those making them), then we clearly need a
higher standard than “he seems like a good guy with a detailed story so I
believe him.”
Again,
I must emphasize that none of these whistleblowers has made a claim
that an independent investigator can confirm. Everything is based on
trust. Believing such stories without genuine evidence takes us down a
dangerous road within an already treacherous field that is constantly in
the crosshairs of a skeptical establishment.
The MUFON Symposium
Personal
opinions aside, I have had no desire to be in a war with anyone in this
field. I don’t have the time or energy to expend on such things. This,
despite the fact that nearly every week I receive messages from people
who want me to attack these people. For my part, I prefer to do my own
research and focus on the fascinating nuances of the UFO phenomenon
itself.
But
I was unable to stay out of the controversy for a specific reason. Six
months ago, I was asked by MUFON Director Jan Harzan to speak at the
MUFON International Symposium. It had been six years since I had last
spoken there
I
decided to accept Jan’s offer to speak at the 2017 Symposium. He then
asked me if I would speak specifically about the secret space program.
In fact, I didn’t want to, and told him so. I had explored it in the
past and was looking at other things. But he really wanted it, and so I
thought, sure, I can do fresh research and present my findings.
Several
months later, I learned that MUFON had organized this into the
conference’s major theme, and that Corey Goode, Andrew Basiago, William
Tompkins, and Dr. Michael Salla were not only presenting on that very
topic, but that i would be featured on a panel with them. (In fairness I
should add that MUFON has also invited other researchers, including
Mark McCandlish and Michael Schratt, both highly credible, as well as
bringing Gary McKinnon in by Skype).
Before
I continue, let me have a word on Michael Salla and Bill Tompkins. I’ve
known Michael for over a decade, and have had several long
conversations with him. What I say here I have said to him personally: I
believe he has done genuine and good research on a number of matters,
but has a tendency to be too trusting. From my perspective, it’s always
been like that. There are people who love his work, and there are
haters. I am neither, but am always looking for information I can use.
Sometimes I get good information and insights from his work and so I
find him worthwhile to listen to, even if I don’t approve of his
quickness to jump to conclusions.
Bill
Tompkins is an interesting case. He is in his 90s, and recently wrote a
book entitled Selected by Extraterrestrials, which details his life and
claims about having participated in the Navy’s top secret program to
create a secret space fleet. Unlike the other alleged whistleblowers,
Tompkins has a career that has been confirmed: he did work at Douglas
Aircraft for many years and has very impressive credentials. That counts
for something. I should add that Dr. Salla and Dr. Bob Wood have both
done a great deal of work to investigate and confirm Tompkins’
background and found what they believe is at least some corroboration to
Tompkins’ claims.
Even
so, I have my doubts about Mr. Tompkins. It’s not widely known, but I
had the opportunity to be his publisher. After I learned about his
credentials from Bob Wood, but before I read his manuscript, I had
agreed in principle that I would publish it. But after reading the
manuscript, I had to decline. I found the tone of this book to be
perfectly designed to bring disrepute to the field and I wanted nothing
to do with it. I found a number of obvious errors in the book and what
seemed to me examples of self-aggrandisement that didn’t sit well with
me. I wished Tompkins well and that was that. I haven’t made my final
judgment on Tompkins, and perhaps I never will. If evidence can be
brought forth to substantiate his key claims, then I will look at it.
In
any case, when I learned I would be on a panel with Corey, Andy, Bill,
and Michael, I phoned Jan and politely asked him what was he thinking. I
mentioned my concern about MUFON’s decision to bring in individuals
with claims that are inherently impossible to verify. MUFON, after all,
is supposed to have evidence-based standards.
Jan
explained himself as well as he could, essentially saying that he
wanted to bring in diverse and interesting opinions and to let attendees
decide for themselves. Well, MUFON is allowed to do what it wants, and
of course the public is allowed to say what it wants in return. But this
left me in an interesting position, and I realized it was time to begin
expressing my thoughts on this more forthrightly.
I
did this through a few different radio interviews, most definitively
with Bill Ryan earlier in July 2017. That interview is on Youtube
and gives a good overview of my thoughts (and his) on the matter of
these whistleblowers and claims. Judging from the responses, it is
obvious to me that the interview has touched a chord with many people
out there.
Since
then, Andrew Basiago has called me a liar and disinformation agent, but
to my knowledge none of the other individuals concerned has.
In
fact, I spoke recently with Corey Goode and said to him the same
essentials as I am writing here. It’s nothing personal, I said, and
while I am skeptical of his story, that is less important than the fact
that his claims don’t allow for me to confirm them independently. To
Corey’s credit, he didn’t take offense and we spoke cordially and
candidly.
I
want to make this point as clear as I can. My opinions (and yours, for
that matter) don’t mean very much. What matters is the evidence that can
be brought forward for these stories. I hold it as possible that there
is something in these accounts that is true. After all, I believe that
radical technology is being withheld from us. I believe the ARV story
and more. But if a story gives me no chance to confirm or deny its basic
claims, then it’s essentially useless to me as a researcher.
This
is especially so if I cannot even confirm the basics of the person’s
alleged career. I’ve said this many times. You can’t be considered a
whistleblower if you can’t confirm that you are who you say you are. William Binney
is a whistleblower. We know who he is. There are other real
whistleblowers. If you can’t even confirm the basics of your alleged
career, then you are not a whistleblower.
Disinformation or Something Else?
About
a year ago, in an interview with Jimmy Church, I said that if I were
responsible for managing the secret space program, I would want to find
people who had truly outrageous stories to tell. I would then make sure
they received enough publicity to make the whole thing seem crazy. This
would keep the mainstream far away while also derailing many genuine
investigators and sending them down false leads.
We have to consider this as a genuine possibility. Especially when we consider American history from Cointelpro,
through the false flags and color revolutions it has organized around
the world, to Snowden’s leaks, and even former Obama official Cass Sunstein’s call for infiltration
of allegedly anti-government organizations. If someone wanted to guard
the secret space program while laying waste to the UFO field, they very
well might cultivate such alleged whistleblowers.
There
are many possibilities to what these people are saying. For my part, I
don’t adhere definitively to any one of them. I don’t know the answers.
1)
Could it be that they participated in a program and were utterly messed
with upon being let go? I have known several ex-U.S. military people
who were severely damaged mentally (intentionally) so as to protect the
classified secrets they were exposed to. I consider this a crime, and
one that ought to result in prosecution, were it not for the fact that
our system is hopelessly and irredeemably corrupt and has been so for
ages. By the way, at least one credible account has come to me
describing the same thing happening to a former high-level KGB officer.
If
this has happened to one or all of the alleged whistleblowers, is it
possible that there is a kernel of truth somewhere in their claims?
After all, the hallmark of disinformation is to place an important truth
within several obvious falsehoods. That way, the truth is also
discredited and the the secret can safely continue for a time longer.
When you are running an important secret program, it’s all about buying
time, and every little bit counts.
2)
Could it be that one or more of them are simply mentally unbalanced?
This is not for me to say, but I’ve met my share of such people and they
exist. In this case, I really have no idea.
I
would like to add something here. If any of these individuals have some
form of mental disturbance, whether from induced trauma or simply a
random act of the universe, they have my sincere sympathy. If any of
them have been subjected to serious traumas, it might be that the only
way they could piece their mental life together has been by creating a
belief system they can live with, one that helps them make sense of
their life and which shields them from an even darker reality. Such a
belief would be so important to them that they might feel impelled to
maintain it at all cost.
Again, this is all speculative.
3) Is it simply a case of people concocting a good story? Let me tell you a story from my past.
Many
years ago, I had a close friend named Bill who was one of the funniest,
smartest, and kindest people I ever knew. He died back in 1990 and I
miss him to this day. Bill was a member of the DuPont family, so he
said. He also talked extensively about having gone to the Juilliard
School of Music, one time guest conducting the Philadelphia Orchestra,
and even giving a grand piano recital as a child prodigy for Queen
Elizabeth. Back then, my much younger self believed my friend. After
Bill died, one of our colleagues investigated him. This was all during
the pre-Web era, but nevertheless she found (shocker) that Bill wasn’t
part of the DuPont family. Instead, his mother had been a secretary at
DuPont. Bill never attended Juilliard, never guest-conducted the
Philadelphia Orchestra, and certainly never met the Queen of England!
My
dear friend was a pathological liar, at least when it came to his own
accomplishments. Relating to everything else, as far as I can tell, he
was perfectly honest. The interesting thing is that his lies about
himself didn’t stop him from being a good and trusted friend to me or to
many other people. Bill just liked to glorify himself.
The
thing I learned from Bill is that you can be a good person and still
lie. Conversely, you can be a real prick and still be telling the truth.
When we investigate claims of any sort, we have to remember that
personalities must always take a back seat to evidence.
One
more thing about lying. When someone is lying to you, most of the time
you believe them. That’s why they lie, after all. Because it often works
and some people are very good at it. Many people who are genuinely
honest have a hard time imagining why someone else could possibly lie.
They are trusting to a fault.
So
are these whistleblowers lying? Again, I don’t know. If someone is able
to document a provable lie, then we need to know. But as of now I am
not making any such assertions.
4)
Is it a case that these people really did the things they claim, with
little to no distortion in their story? If so, then I would think they
still realize they have many hurdles to overcome in terms of
credibility. I get the distinct impression that some of them realize
this while others do not.
Moving Forward
I
remain willing to engage in a civil discourse with Corey, Andrew, Bill
Tompkins, Michael Salla, or anyone else who has made claims. In a sense,
I understand their position, since I know what it’s like to speak to
staunch skeptics about the UFO subject.
However,
in any sort of engagement I have with such people, they must realize
that the onus is on them to provide their evidence. That is what I do
regarding UFOs. A story that is inherently unverifiable just doesn’t
count, nor does it help if some other random person seemingly supports
the story. Words alone aren’t good enough. Nothing can be taken at face
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I
have been in this field long enough to feel a responsibility for
defending it. There are countless people out there who would like
nothing more than to see the study of UFOs lying in ruins. That would be
a great tragedy.
One
of the problems of our era is that people seem to enjoy drama and
anger. Social media amplifies the situation, allowing sentiments to
spread through a community like a forest fire. I would like to encourage
the supporters and critics alike to take a step back, take a breath,
and before you continue running your mouth and continuing along your
personal warpath, please remember that it’s always best to stay away
from personal invective and adhere to the facts, wherever they lead.
No
one ever became interested in ufology because of the infighting among
researchers. They became interested because this is one of the most
fascinating subjects of all time. There is something very important
going on here, and the only way we have a chance to succeed in learning
the truth is by adhering to the main and true path: studying the
phenomenon itself with as much care as we can give it.
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