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Streisand Effect, China Syndrome, & Libel Allegations OR “What A Copyright Troll Probably Shouldn’t Do”
As the 2 April 13, Brett Gibbs/Prenda Law/Alan Cooper/…… hearing
fast approaches, I thought I would go over a small part of the
voluntarily dismissed libel/defamation case that was filed in Florida,
by John Steele on 24 Feb 13. 2013-02-24-MiamiDade Complaint 2013-03-06-SD Fla notice of voluntary dismissal Thank you Philly Law Blog.
The fact that he did file this case and eventually dismiss it is not my
opinion. The remaining portions of this article are from my analysis –
based on available facts and opinions. If anyone out there disagrees
with my analysis or specific parts of it, please by all means post it or
email me (doesrayme2011@hotmail.com).
Whatever you send me will be fairly evaluated and if a correction is
needed, I have no problem doing so. Even if I decide not to do a
correction, I will post your views. This goes for all of my articles
and comments on dietrolldie.com. The discussion we have here on the
issue of Copyright Trolling may get heated at times, but I will not stop
the open discussion because someone’s feelings are hurt. Myself and
other posters have been ridiculed and made fun of because we are trying
to educate the masses on what the Trolls are doing. If this is still an
issue for you, please fill out the attached form and present it to the
nearest Law Enforcement official. HurtFeelingsForm
In the Florida case, the Plaintiff (John Steele) claimed the following on page 2-3 of the complaint (page separation was removed).
I never thought DieTrollDie was sophisticated. It is also no more childish then “BitTottent Bull” or other pseudonyms. As far as if someone needs intense psychological therapy, I’m willing to bet that their issues were there long before any comments were made that hurt someone’s feelings. The reason we “hide” behind these names is because we know the Trolls will come after us in an attempt to silence us. Hell, Brett Gibbs (Plaintiff for Ingenuity 13 LLC) made a motion to disqualify Judge Wright when a case didn’t go their way. Who made that decision? Smooth move.
I have stated this fear of vindictive prosecution in the various declarations (Torpedoes)
I have sent to the courts around the country. These libel and
defamation law suits only go to show that my fears are justified. Note: Hopefully by the time this is posted, a new Torpedo will have reached its target.
Comment to the following DTD article – COMCAST Is Starting To Get Fed Up With The Trolls – AF Holdings LLC, v. Does 1-1058, case 1:12-cv-00048-BAH (DC)
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DTD Response on 4:45PM EST – Please note how certain parts were edited out (I have bolded them) prior to adding it to the Florida law suit (FL Miami-Dade #13-6680 CA 4 | Federal case 1:13-cv-20744-JAL, Document 1-2, Pages 29-30). Note: John Steele dismissed this case on 6 Mar 13.
Please judge for yourself – any libel or defamation?
I find it particularly funny that this part was removed, “Claim you firm is untouchable; that will only make the fall that much funnier.” Why would this portion be removed from the complaint??? Based on what is happening in California (2:12-cv-08333), this comment hits home. I also love this comment –
I will end this with that I believe the various real plaintiffs have a right to seek redress for instances of copyright infringement. But it needs to be based on fairness and not a business model. I may not have the answer to fix this problem, but that doesn’t mean I cannot point out the problems with Copyright Trolling. Disagree with me? OK, my feelings will not be hurt.
DieTrollDie
CBC 26 Aug 2011 Public Figure John Steele – Audio Interview.
Forbes Interview of John Steele
Graphic from @JohnHeneryLawyer – Wow!
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Tagged 13-6680 CA 4, 1:12-cv-00048, 1:13-cv-20744, 2:12-cv-08333, 4-12-cv-05833, AF Holdings LLC, alan Cooper, Anti-Piracy Law Group, BitTorrent, BitTorrent Bull, Brett Gibbs, China Syndrome, copyright trolls, defamation, DieTrollDie, DTD Torpedos, fightcopyrighttrolls, hurt feelings, hutcherson, Infringement, INGENUITY 13 LLC, John Steele, Josh Hatfield, Judge Otis D Wright, libel, Miami-Dade, Morgan Pietz, Mullvad Proxy, Paul Duffy, paul hansmeier, Peter Hansmeier, Prenda Law Inc., Streisand Effect, willaim cisa
In the Florida case, the Plaintiff (John Steele) claimed the following on page 2-3 of the complaint (page separation was removed).
I never thought DieTrollDie was sophisticated. It is also no more childish then “BitTottent Bull” or other pseudonyms. As far as if someone needs intense psychological therapy, I’m willing to bet that their issues were there long before any comments were made that hurt someone’s feelings. The reason we “hide” behind these names is because we know the Trolls will come after us in an attempt to silence us. Hell, Brett Gibbs (Plaintiff for Ingenuity 13 LLC) made a motion to disqualify Judge Wright when a case didn’t go their way. Who made that decision? Smooth move.
I have stated this fear of vindictive prosecution in the various declarations (Torpedoes)
I have sent to the courts around the country. These libel and
defamation law suits only go to show that my fears are justified. Note: Hopefully by the time this is posted, a new Torpedo will have reached its target.Example Of How A Comment Was Taken Out Of Context In The Complaint
On page 29-30 of the complaint (1:13-cv-20744-JAL), Plaintiff claims the following was a libelous statement.163. Thank you John Steele. You still haven’t figured out that each time you post, you only help us. Yes a law firm against the Does, that is impressive. Can’t wait to see how you fair against DWT. And John, please stop it with the “Fight Piracy” bit, nobody buys that claim. It is more accurate to say you were thinking of new ways to make money off unsuspecting new Does. (S. 121)Now please take a look at the actual full statement (below), as well as the statement from “johndoe” that it was in response to. Parts of my comments are missing. I wonder why? I believe the statement was made by John Steele – I base this on the use of the Mullvad Web proxy and on previous taunting comments made on dietrolldie.com and fightcopyrighttrolls.com. Yes it is my opinion and I’m willing to listen to alternate views.
Comment to the following DTD article – COMCAST Is Starting To Get Fed Up With The Trolls – AF Holdings LLC, v. Does 1-1058, case 1:12-cv-00048-BAH (DC)
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johndoe@iamtoocheaptopayforthings.com
94.75.220.77 (Mullvad Web Proxy in Sweden, host: m4.mullvad.net)
2012/02/20 at 9:04 pm UTC (4:04 PM EST)
Hello everyone!!
Just sitting here with a nice pale ale, enjoying the various blog posts and thinking of how to better fight piracy. Feeling pretty good about this issue and enjoy exploring the finer points of this litigation with the very distinguished jurists in DC, with whom I have the utmost respect.
I think you guys should just stick to picking on the Hashmis and Stones of the world. After all, not many articles out there about how a certain Miami firm is having any problems with the courts. I guess we will see.
BTW, what firm are you going to call DTD? After all, we have seen your legal mind in all its glory Next time, don’t embarrass yourself, at least ask a law student for help.
“DAMN THE TORPEDOS, FULL SPEED AHEAD!!”
DTD Response on 4:45PM EST – Please note how certain parts were edited out (I have bolded them) prior to adding it to the Florida law suit (FL Miami-Dade #13-6680 CA 4 | Federal case 1:13-cv-20744-JAL, Document 1-2, Pages 29-30). Note: John Steele dismissed this case on 6 Mar 13.
Hitting the bottle a bit early on a Monday? I see your ego got you to respond pretty fast. Thank you John Steele. You still haven’t figured out that each time you post, you only help us. Yes a law firm against the Does, that is impressive. Can’t wait to see how you fair against DWT. And John, please stop it with the “Fight Piracy” bit, nobody buys that claim. It is more accurate to say you were thinking of new ways to make money off unsuspecting new Does. Go ahead and make fun of my efforts; it comes across as protesting too much. Claim you firm is untouchable; that will only make the fall that much funnier.
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I find it particularly funny that this part was removed, “Claim you firm is untouchable; that will only make the fall that much funnier.” Why would this portion be removed from the complaint??? Based on what is happening in California (2:12-cv-08333), this comment hits home. I also love this comment –
After all, not many articles out there about how a certain Miami firm is having any problems with the courts. I guess we will see.Yes “we will see.” 2 April 2013. How about the fact that AF Holdings is now dismissing some of its cases in various courts (Popehat article). Damage control? Too little too late in my opinion. Streisand effect & China Syndrome come to mind.
I will end this with that I believe the various real plaintiffs have a right to seek redress for instances of copyright infringement. But it needs to be based on fairness and not a business model. I may not have the answer to fix this problem, but that doesn’t mean I cannot point out the problems with Copyright Trolling. Disagree with me? OK, my feelings will not be hurt.
DieTrollDie
CBC 26 Aug 2011 Public Figure John Steele – Audio Interview.
Forbes Interview of John Steele
Graphic from @JohnHeneryLawyer – Wow!
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